By Sheryl Berk
My grandma Miriam taught me a few words in Yiddish when
I was a little girl, and there's only one I can think of to describe Mandy
Patinkin: chutzpah. His entire concert, Mamaloshen (translation: "Mother
Tongue"), is performed in Yiddish, yet he never spoke a sentence before
tackling this project.
"It definitely took guts to commit to this -- it was
a monumental task," Patinkin explains. "It was totally foreign to me,
and the reservoir of material available was epic in scope. I didn't
know where to begin and I found every excuse not to. I was frightened
of it for a long time -- eight years, to be exact."
But fear became fascination. "I met [Yiddish expert]
Moishe Rosenfeld, and he began to tutor me. He brought me hundreds of
songs and I started chipping away at it." Patinkin organized the music
into three categories: songs from the Holocaust, songs of Yiddish theater,
and songs by Jewish composers. "It' s become an obsession with me,"
he admits. "I have this tremendous thirst for knowledge -- to know more,
to understand more."
The result was an album released this year (Nonesuch
Records), a July concert series at the Angel Orensanz Foundation Center
on the Lower East Side, and now a Broadway staging at the Belasco Theater
(through November 7). He will also write a Mamaloshen book for Simon
& Schuster next year, elaborating on his research and the feelings the
project has evoked.
Patinkin is passionate about this music -- to the point
where it's nearly impossible to get a word in edgewise. "If I ramble
on, just stop me," he apologizes, then launches into an hour-long lecture
about heritage and home and following your heart. Mama-loshen has clearly
made him a new man -- more reflective, more spiritual, more humble than
you'd expect of the legendary Big Ego of Broadway. "I've been accused
of being a bit self-indulgent," he says of his reputation. "Well, I
finally found something that's more important than even me."
Did you always plan to bring Mamaloshen
to Broadway?
Oh, God, no. I never thought it would come out of my
apartment! It's been an incredible journey. We made the album because
Joe Papp suggested it about eight years ago and I promised him [before
his death] that I'd do it. This was about paying back my heritage, giving
back to the culture that gave me the definition of who I am.
You've done a great deal of research
into Jewish composers.
And I've been stunned at what I've discovered. Did
you know that Irving Berlin's first language was Yiddish, yet he never
wrote a Yiddish song? I find, however, that his music -- and many other
composers' -- was intrinsically Yiddish. These Yiddishites were the
teachers to Tin Pan Alley. They embodied the greatest gift for telling
stories about family -- about birth, death, life, pogroms, celebrations,
weddings, everything. I found it so ironic that [among] these people
who reached over to this land for freedom, the first thing that they
did when they got here was change their name. But these echoes were
in these people anyway, even if they weren't embracing their heritage.
Yet you are embracing it.
And I think I am helping others embrace it as well.
I took songs by Jewish composers like Stephen Sondheim, Leonard Bernstein,
Paul Simon, and Irving Berlin, and we translated them into the Yiddish.
This finished the circle.
Were you ever intimidated by the music
-- did you ever feel the language was an obstacle?
My wife [Kathryn Grody] always says I feel the freest
when I'm singing, and an amazing thing occurred when I was singing these
songs in the studio. They made me feel 100 times more free. I can't
figure it out. I never heard these things when I was a kid -- so where
does this connection come from? It's an enigma.
Yet you don't have to be Jewish to
appreciate the music.
Not at all. The musicians who worked on this album
with me are of all ethnic backgrounds, and they all told me the same
thing: They were moved by these songs. It's about the immigrant experience
as a whole. If there is any lesson that I wish to give anyone who comes
to this piece, whether you're Jewish or African-American or Russian
or Hispanic or Native American or whatever, investigate it, seek it
out. Because it will fill your heart in ways that you will not be able
to explain. You won't need to explain or understand it. That's the gift
that it gave me, and that's the gift that I want to give others.
Has it changed your life?
It has. I am not a reader, and this has ignited me
reading voraciously. I can't get over how the words and the images fire
my mind.
How did you go about turning the album
into a stage show?
Making an album is one experience -- bringing it to
stage is a different journey. My big worry was how do you make 99.9
percent of an audience who don't speak a word of Yiddish get something
out of this? I toyed with some really out-there ideas. I thought, "Do
I contact Jerry Robbins and have him create a ballet that I narrate?"
But I wanted it simple. Then I hit on the Paul Simon song "American
Tune" as the thread to lead you through.
What has the audience reaction been
like?
When it started out, we only had a slight audience,
but once the press embraced it -- like I never had anything embraced
in my life -- we were packed. I can understand the struggle to find
an audience at first; I struggled with it myself. But once people get
over those fears and walk into those waters, they feel cleansed. People
would come backstage and visit me, and lift up their sleeves and show
me the numbers on their arms from the Holocaust. I took the show to
Germany, and the reaction was even stronger there. I think they need
it as part of their nation's healing process -- and that has been extraordinary.
I'm going back in the beginning of January to tour all the major cities
of Germany. I also want to bring this show into the nursing homes at
some point. They are some of the last people who own this. This has
been without a doubt the most memorable project I have ever worked on.
Do you have any other favorite musical
memories?
Carousel and Stop the WorldÉI Want to Get Off. I did
both of them in the youth center on the South Side of Chicago when I
was 15 years old. It was my introduction to theater. I don't think there
is anything better than Carousel. It's just glorious.
What about the shows that made you
a name: Sunday in the Park With George and Evita?
Sunday is one of those things that you never realize
what you have while you have it. My job is to do it, so I'm not experiencing
it like the audience is. I'm living it. I remember, 10 years after,
someone was doing a piece on Bernadette [Peters] and asked me to talk
about it. So I put on the tape of the show, which I had never listened
to since it was recorded. I was in the country, in the car, and I was
so overwhelmed with emotion that I just had to pull over and weep. Evita
was a fine thing -- but it wasn't like Sunday.
Did you see the Evita movie?
No. I'd seen enough of it by the time all the publicity
was done; I didn't need to see it.
Weren't you up for the role of Che
at one point?
I was going to do it with Oliver Stone and Meryl Streep.
We were about to go to Argentina when the whole thing fell apart. It
was a glorious script -- the part of Che was even better. My heart was
broken. Then once this other thing was launched, I just had no interest
-- plus they didn't ask me! You know, I' m not as pretty as Antonio
[Banderas].
When I was in journalism school, I
remember John Simon wrote a vicious review of you in A Winter's Tale
at the Public Theater.
He went after me and Alfre Woodard and Joe Papp.
Do you care what critics say?
If it's a live performance, I try to not read them
while I'm doing it because they will affect my mood. I save them and
read them later. Good ones will give me advice and teach me things --
I've learned things from critics. You can see the difference between
a kind-hearted, constructive criticism and someone who's trying to draw
attention to themselves. But most critics say I'm over-the-top and too
big.
Why is that?
Because it's true! And I've often said that I won't
disappoint my critics. But just as an explanation to it, I started to
study it in myself. When I'm recording an album, right before the take,
I don't consciously say, "I'm going to go wild on this." I do what my
feelings tell me to do. That's who I am. It's more important to be true
to yourself than to listen to your critics. There is a gorgeous thing
that my wife had engraved on a little piece of metal for me to keep
in my wallet. It's a little poem by e.e. cummings: "To be nobody but
yourself, in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make
you like everybody else, means to fight the hardest battle which any
human being can fight and never stop fighting." So...it's fine.
Does it ever hurt?
Of course -- I'm a human being. If somebody says something
mean about me, it hurts.
Do you prefer doing concerts over playing
a character in a show?
I love it more than anything I do. Concertizing is
my way of getting to write the story that I want to tell. Mamaloshen's
a little different from my usual format: I wear a tux; I don't do patter
with the audience; I wear grown-up shoes, not sneakers. I'm going to
do a new musical in the spring, but I don't want to talk about it yet.
Clearly, I prefer being on stage to being in front of a camera -- there's
no comparison.
You just returned to L.A. to film the
100th episode of Chicago Hope. Why did you leave a splashy role that
won you an Emmy?
Because it was very hard on my family. It was impossible.
I couldn't do both -- I couldn't be a husband and dad and be an actor,
not with that schedule. There was no time left for my children.
You actually asked one of your children
to sing with you on Mamaloshen.
I asked my son Gideon to be on the album. He didn't
want to, but I said, "Look, this is really important. This project is
about passing it on from generation to generation." He reconsidered,
and he's in it. And it is the biggest thrill for me.
You've been through so much these past
few years: leaving the show, moving back to New York, a cornea transplant...
And I have to have the other cornea done in the next
six months. I was diagnosed 15 years ago, and finally, I had reached
the point where it needed to be done or I'd go blind. I got a 13-year-old's
cornea.
And you've become a spokesperson for
organ donations.
I am on the phone a lot with people who are terrified,
and I walk them through the paces. Did you know that 44,000 people a
year die waiting for organ donations? The United States is the greatest
participant in the organ donation program of any country in the world,
yet less than five percent of our population participates. I get calls
from mothers of five-year-olds who need new hearts. They weep on the
phone, thanking me for anything I am doing to get the word out there.
I like my privacy, but I may be willing to let a 20/20 or a 60 Minutes
film my next transplant if it will save lives.
Of everything you've done, is there
one thing you'd like to be remembered for?
For always doing what I thought was right and relevant
and not compromising who I am. I'd like that to be my legacy.
From In Theatre's Editor's Note: "Appropriately enough,
cover subject Mandy Patinkin is currently appearing on Broadway in a
show that resulted from years of research into his musical roots. As
Patinkin told contributing editor Sheryl Berk, Mamaloshen 'was about
paying back my heritage, giving back to the culture that gave me the
definition of who I am.'"
Click to read sidebar about
Kathryn Grody's staging of Mom's Life. (Grody is married to Patinkin.)
Mandy's Mission
Bucking convention ("Don't I always?"), the singer
boldly celebrates his roots on Broadway.
In Theater Magazine, October 23, 1998
I did, but just for a week. I miss the cast and the crew, but I don't
miss the life. I am very glad I gave it up.
Special thanks to Joanne C.
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